tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post4764934297826779909..comments2024-03-26T16:46:21.764-04:00Comments on Doctor Grumpy in the House: With a cluck-cluck here and a cluck-cluck thereGrumpy, M.D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/09858110332436246760noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-84548440802862454862010-05-07T01:44:28.254-04:002010-05-07T01:44:28.254-04:00OMG! I have 9 chickens but no health insurance. Yo...OMG! I have 9 chickens but no health insurance. You mean my kids & I can see a doc when we need one now??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-26964471507643627352010-04-27T16:19:33.456-04:002010-04-27T16:19:33.456-04:00THere is a lot of bartering going on in the US and...THere is a lot of bartering going on in the US and Canada; happens all the time. You fix my car, I'll paint your kitchen. It's very popular in smaller communities here. And, it's by 'professionals' (like, a licensed mechanic, not a backyard grease monkey). <br />Being paid by chickens is not really bartering if you don't want chickens. Do none of your patients have a business or skill that you would be willing to exchange your services for? Although that would make it hard to pay your rent I suppose.<br />My parents built a house and barely had to use any cash/money. <br />And only one chicken was ever received, LOL.TracyKMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07498896222222982320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-42106023585322077572010-04-26T23:05:24.874-04:002010-04-26T23:05:24.874-04:00Imagine if chickens were the standard currency. Th...Imagine if chickens were the standard currency. The chicken feed sellers would be the richest people in the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-51473568678612994932010-04-26T20:21:57.583-04:002010-04-26T20:21:57.583-04:00@Walter:
Borrowing a brilliant individual's mo...@Walter:<br />Borrowing a brilliant individual's moniker does not add any credibility to your post and in fact you do an extreme disservice to his memory with your ignorant rant. I was going to ignore your inanity but I will respond to you.<br />First of all, I, like Grumpy, could drop Medicare out of Medicare but I work in an under-served rural area for the past 4 years and have taken Medicare and Medicaid patients BY CHOICE because I feel bad for them and wanted to provide first class ENT service to them so they would not have to drive 2 hours to a major academic institution and wait for hours especially when many of them are obviously poor or can't afford to drive. <br />Second, I do know how to read and when I signed the contract initially, at some risk, I never expected such an extreme abuse of power and breach of contract as I saw in one year. I don't mind a gradual decrease in reimbursement and expected it, but not a 20% decrease in one year plus a potential additional 20%. I am sure if I told you that you were going to get reimbursed 40% less next year for the same amount of work you would be outraged, perhaps you should go lobby your boss with your decreased income?<br />No one is holding a gun to my head but the "legally binding" contract is extremely lopsided in that one side makes the law and cannot held accountable to that contract when I feel they are in breach of it, which they are. I was not asking for your sympathy or empathy but actually pity your ignorance which leads me to my final point. <br />I AM doing something about it. I am CLOSING my practice, have to let three wonderful women go jobless and have had to go through hours of crying by my patients pleading for me to stay and it breaks my heart. My wife and I are taking academic positions in NYC because we can and are well respected in our field. So I am not pissing and moaning nor will I engage in a fruitless waste of time and resources with a "legislative body" that has no idea what they are doing. The only people who suffer in this situation are my employees and my present county. This is happening all over the country and will continue to happen. I was simply trying to educate you. Next time just shut up, do some research by what was provided you and post something constructive.NozDocnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-24141524914034389932010-04-26T17:56:31.255-04:002010-04-26T17:56:31.255-04:00>>How do you make change?
Eggs, of course!!...>>How do you make change?<br /><br />Eggs, of course!!!Outridernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-84309315710450012592010-04-26T11:22:24.126-04:002010-04-26T11:22:24.126-04:00What I want to know is...
How do you make change?...What I want to know is...<br /><br />How do you make change?<br /><br />>:pDorishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01338749527126447129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-19851067738507546572010-04-26T04:02:53.690-04:002010-04-26T04:02:53.690-04:00ChemoQueenRPh said...
"I think the IRS would...ChemoQueenRPh said... <br />"I think the IRS would expect taxes be paid on the chickens. Do you think they would accept eggs sent in with your 1040?"<br /><br /><br />Eggs sent in with your 1040 would cause the IRS building to be evacuated. They might contain anthrax!<br /><br />About ten years ago, when I was a Mail-extracter at the IRS, we were evacuated for several hours over some cookie crumbs in someone's return. They were terrified that the crumbs might be anthrax.<br /><br />Word verification: eatterie = where to send the chickens.<br /><br />RSDSRSDSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-17082068495651160732010-04-25T19:01:56.293-04:002010-04-25T19:01:56.293-04:00@John Woolman: I see you possess a keen and accura...@John Woolman: I see you possess a keen and accurate understanding of Politcal Science, the Political Process, and Politicians. My hat's off to you, good Sir.<br /><br />@Cthulhu Sashimi:<br /><br />"Crito, we owe a cock to Asclepius. Please don't forget to pay the debt."<br /><br />As we are talking about the Greeks, are you sure it's poultry Socrates is referring to?<br /><br />Next, to all ya' homies and homettes hatin' on Harry Reid (especially those of you who live and vote in Nevada), <i> hekatesgal </i> makes an excellent point. Anyone who has taken an introductory political science class knows that when it comes to the US Congress (and probably every other legislative body) SENIORITY=POWER.<br /><br />Let me give it it's own line:<br /><br />SENIORITY=POWER<br /><br />Freshmen congresswomen/men are lucky to be allowed by the party leadership to scrub the congressional toilets!<br /><br />So, Nevadans, if you can put down your ideological blinders for a moment (yeah, yeah, I know - when pigs fly...) who do you want as an advocate for your interests in the US Senate? Someone who has 30 years SENIORITY in that august body and therefore has a tremendous amount of power and wields a tremendous amount of clout (Reid), or someone who has ZERO seniority and therefore ZERO<br />power and clout (anyone else)?<br />Think about it.<br /> <br />Aight?<br /><br />@NozDoc: your plaint is disingenuous at best. <br /><br />As you yourself say, "I would be breaking my contract with the feds... Don't fool yourselves people, Medicare is to healthcare as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are to the housing/financial meltdown. Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to sell you something..."<br /><br />Your 3 telling words: 'contract', 'feds', & 'Medicare.' <br /><br />If you want to barter for your services and be free of the Fed's restrictions, don't renew your Medicare contract!<br />In fact, I hear that's all the rage among doctors these days as the reimbursement rates have been/are likely to be cut.<br />If you were smart enough to get through med school and your specialized training, you should be able to understand the terms of the Medicare contract <i> BEFORE </i> you sign it.<br /> <br />No one is holding a gun to your head or in any other way forcing you to enter into a legally binding agreement with the Federal Government, so don't expect any sympathy or empathy from around these parts.<br /><br />You want to have your cake and eat it too? Pissing and moaning about "what is" will get you nowhere. Gather a group of like-minded doctors who WANT the Medicare $'s AND want to be free of Medicare's restrictions (so they may barter, accept differential payments, cut patients breaks, provide free care, etc.) AND LOBBY THE SHIT OUT OF CONGRESS TO CHANGE THE LAW AND THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE MEDICARE CONTRACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><br />I believe that's known as the "American Way."Walter Cronkitenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-54710371348256433182010-04-25T11:54:52.356-04:002010-04-25T11:54:52.356-04:00Aw, Doc, it sounds just like Little House on the P...Aw, Doc, it sounds just like Little House on the Prairie.<br /><br />Maybe she doesn't get out much and use computers, eh?RehabNursehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02695247141022093754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-45355731795799323612010-04-25T11:13:15.281-04:002010-04-25T11:13:15.281-04:00No,no, she's got it wrong. You raise the hog, ...No,no, she's got it wrong. You raise the hog, kill it and cure the meat and pay the doctor in hams. They are much easier to transport. My mother grew up knowing that the first hams each year went directly to the doctor. Only after my grandfather decided he had "banked" enough advanced payment for the next year's potential medical needs did the family get to eat ham.tia n, rnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09638886197189751658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-86214302273875904462010-04-25T01:19:04.420-04:002010-04-25T01:19:04.420-04:00But, but...what if they paid in Diet Coke????
Mon...But, but...what if they paid in Diet Coke????<br /><br />Money is useful, but I will admit, if someone wanted to hire me as a private duty nurse for a set time, in exchange for siding on my house, a new roof, windows, or something of that nature, I think I would seriously consider it.GB, RNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09735213378851473207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-59290326172491843002010-04-25T00:29:50.556-04:002010-04-25T00:29:50.556-04:00Awwwww, Anonymous 4:49...don't be hatin'!Awwwww, Anonymous 4:49...don't be hatin'!Gertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-37915418574349780212010-04-24T22:22:48.286-04:002010-04-24T22:22:48.286-04:00From the chicken calculator site:
*This site makes...From the chicken calculator site:<br />*This site makes no guarantees regarding the correct number of chickens for your procedure. Chicken count is an estimate only based on current market value of typical live chickens and average costs of medical procedures gathered from multiple sources. Your doctor may require more chickens than specified. For your convenience, we recommend bringing at least 20% more chickens than specified to any doctor's appointment. For that matter, you should have at least 1500 chickens per passenger in your car in the event of an accident, so you could just use those if you're a little short on chickens, but then be extra careful driving home from the doctor because you will have used up some of your accident chickens. Do not mail your medical chickens as payment. Please barter medical chickens in person. Chickens should be secured in your trunk or truckbed if possible. Any chickens riding in the passenger compartment on the way to the doctor must wear seat belts. Chickens should not drive you to the doctor, if you are unable to drive you should dial 911 for an ambulance. Ambulances may not accept chickens for payment, you should have at least 4 goats or an adult pig for such cases. Your healthcare provider may not accept chickens for payment, but many accept other livestock. The Chicken Calculator can not convert medical procedures to sheep, goats, pigs, ducks, cows, llamas, ostriches, etc. Check with your local livestock association for current exchange rates and providers.<br /><br />Pure gold.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09892556877146347910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-68389929710186920432010-04-24T20:10:25.715-04:002010-04-24T20:10:25.715-04:00Honestly, as a practicing otolaryngologist in rura...Honestly, as a practicing otolaryngologist in rural KY, I have been predicting this would happen. I actually wouldn't mind taking the value of bartered goods and services that I might want. I can be thrown into federal prison and fined hundreds of thousands of dollars if I cut a break to a hard working farmer that doesn't have insurance and not charge them in cash what I charge for my services. I cannot even do something for free because I would be breaking my contract with the feds. If someone paid me in 2 chickens and I ate them at least I wouldn't have to give them back like I just did with a check for 800 dollars four months later because they found out that they had "overpaid" me 10 dollars and couldn't just ask for 10 dollars back. Don't fool yourselves people, Medicare is to healthcare as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are to the housing/financial meltdown. Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to sell you something...NozDocnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-86528174804190664482010-04-24T19:49:36.815-04:002010-04-24T19:49:36.815-04:006:11- so wrong it suggests you have problems with ...6:11- so wrong it suggests you have problems with reality cognition. you too gert.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-30793176980598677362010-04-24T19:08:43.903-04:002010-04-24T19:08:43.903-04:00I think the IRS would expect taxes be paid on the ...I think the IRS would expect taxes be paid on the chickens. Do you think they would accept eggs sent in with your 1040?ChemoQueenRPhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-76854470652920276782010-04-24T17:33:52.370-04:002010-04-24T17:33:52.370-04:00I never said the barter system doesn't work. I...I never said the barter system doesn't work. I pointed out that it does, for some people and circumstances.Grumpy, M.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09858110332436246760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-1520328892032964092010-04-24T17:24:27.237-04:002010-04-24T17:24:27.237-04:00The batering system is nice, if used carefully and...The batering system is nice, if used carefully and both parties understand and agree to the terms.<br />A few years ago, while I was on a consulting contract, our system administrator, a young mother, set up a fully functional network and web site for her pediatrician, who agreed to provide $XX amount of care for the children in exchange for her services. Both parties were pleased with the arrangement, from what I heard at work. The agreement was extended while I was there, and may still be active.<br />While Ms. Lowden's phrasing may be awkward, the barter system does work when both parties are informed and in agreement.Donnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-62497973228449578142010-04-24T16:32:55.555-04:002010-04-24T16:32:55.555-04:00Didn't you want to get started on Marie's ...Didn't you want to get started on Marie's dowry? Or are you holding out for goats?Outridernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-49781109531850782732010-04-24T15:06:38.088-04:002010-04-24T15:06:38.088-04:00I know you hate politics and political bickering o...I know you hate politics and political bickering on your blog,<br />but, hey, <i> You Started It! </i><br />I promise this will be my last (overtly) political post on this subject.<br /><br />What Anon,4/24,06.11AM posted is true as far as it goes:<br />"She used the example of her grandparents, who bartered for medical services by trading their farm goods. I think you're buying into the Reid campaign's bullshit completely." <br /><br />But, it's not the Reid campaign's bullshit, it's Sue Lowden at her out of touch with the non-wealthy (that'd be 99.99% of us, folks) best.<br /><br />But more importantly, Suze has 1) said that bartering and negotiating for medical services IS applicable and practical TODAY, and 2) subsequently, her campaign has re-stated and re-iterated that the bartering and negotiating ideas are her ideas of health-care reform for TODAY, NOW, AS WE SPEAK. Not just in her grandparents time, not just in <i> The Little House on the Prarie's </i> time (damn, that was one cool medico on that show, wasn't he?) but NOW, TODAY - April 24, 2010, and going forward into the future.<br /><br />Check the LVRJ.com website - Las Vegas' right-wing newspaper if you don't believe me.Dr. McCoynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-63943920056444970052010-04-24T15:03:19.804-04:002010-04-24T15:03:19.804-04:00First time on your blog.
Hmmm this is something I...First time on your blog.<br /><br />Hmmm this is something I'm new to. Didn't know about this barter system coming up. The way you've talked about chicken is funny. But reading other comments, guess it makes some sense. Whatever the conclusion, I enjoyed the read.<br /><br />Happy blogging!ererhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10680330275107474948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-47827706645570229552010-04-24T13:53:52.226-04:002010-04-24T13:53:52.226-04:00Do you have to pay taxes on reimbursements paid in...Do you have to pay taxes on reimbursements paid in legumes, cheese or chickens?? Does the local county and school district take chickens instead of dollars come tax time? Valid questions that need answers.....Texas Pharmacy Chicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02886874486374432629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-68211967197571947372010-04-24T13:45:20.886-04:002010-04-24T13:45:20.886-04:00@Maha:
Q:"How is it that people like this ha...@Maha:<br /><br />Q:"How is it that people like this have a public platform to voice their insanity??"<br /><br />A: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$<br /><br />Ain't it Grand?Poli-Woli-Doodle-All-The-Daynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-68447660782930991072010-04-24T13:23:22.256-04:002010-04-24T13:23:22.256-04:00Hilarious. Can't believe this woman is a conte...Hilarious. Can't believe this woman is a contender for the U.S. Senate. Can't they find someone who isn't a cook?Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04619337208918703213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-37034263177509490522010-04-24T13:22:14.907-04:002010-04-24T13:22:14.907-04:00haha does this mean that someday i will be able to...haha does this mean that someday i will be able to pay my speeding tickets with prostate exams?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com