tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post2681958980932738956..comments2024-03-18T09:00:31.992-04:00Comments on Doctor Grumpy in the House: Things that make me grumpyGrumpy, M.D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/09858110332436246760noreply@blogger.comBlogger96125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-6990096509623337022014-08-25T20:46:28.832-04:002014-08-25T20:46:28.832-04:00I'm paying for college right now by working on...I'm paying for college right now by working one of those low wage "drudge" jobs. I get to wake up insanely early for 7am lecture, clean all sorts of fun stuff directly after lecture with hardly any time to eat in-between, come back dead tired, nuke a bowl of Ramen, and study until my brain rots and demands actual sleep and not just another energy drink. My advice is to be careful because that person you mock now might just be your co-worker tomorrow, or worse, your boss. Or, worse yet-- at a restaurant they might just be the one handling your food... I believe JK Rowling had it right. <br /><br />"If you want to know what a man’s like, take a good look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals." -- Harry Potter and the Goblet of FireKeepSmilingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-86811732776722912992013-04-05T22:58:34.018-04:002013-04-05T22:58:34.018-04:00Great post. A+++ would read again.
Ebay rating asi...Great post. A+++ would read again.<br />Ebay rating aside, I totally agree. Be nice to everyone.Mama Dobblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16736676368170342137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-25300300797278758382011-01-18T09:44:59.436-05:002011-01-18T09:44:59.436-05:00Dr. Grumpy! You just earned 'mad respect point...Dr. Grumpy! You just earned 'mad respect points' on my 'nice docs' scale! :-)<br /><br />To quote an old poem (Abou Ben Adham): "May your tribe increase!" (by which I mean: more Docs who think/feel like you do.... unless you and the missus have a different idea! :p)<br />---------------------------------<br />"I almost certainly would have done the same as Dr. Grumpy."<br /><br />Paul - Your own website says: "I am currently working full time as a software developer for the Department of Justice, Canada. I also do freelance work in my spare time."<br /><br />Kudos to you, your profession and your job.<br /><br />But, given the fact that you aren't a medical professional and you have NO clue as to the goings on in a hospital, all I'll say is:<br />"Thanks for judging us from your ill-informed soap-box! Have a nice day :-)"Spook, RNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11085577662135429417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-5863814595960437592010-10-21T16:53:02.609-04:002010-10-21T16:53:02.609-04:00And like I said before, I do agree he shouldn'...And like I said before, I do agree he shouldn't have used the word 'drudges', but Grumpy's reaction is out of proportion... not even trying to see the other side of the coin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-66942665023800918592010-10-21T16:49:18.894-04:002010-10-21T16:49:18.894-04:00Of course, in a sense Doctors ARE more important. ...Of course, in a sense Doctors ARE more important. If you were stranded on a desert island for the rest of your life, would you rather have a doctor to heal your wounds, or a janitor to keep the beach tidy? <br /><br />People with skills are more important because they are in greater demand than people without skills. There's no disputing that. But that still doesn't mean the more important people are any 'better' than the non-important people, unless you define what is 'better' in terms of its importance. <br /><br />Sure, Helmsley probably thinks of himself as more important in that sense, but that doesn't mean he doesn't clean up his own messes while off duty. <br /><br />When on duty, Doctors are expected to do what they were hired to do. <br /><br />It's simple math. The hospital pays the janitor much less than the doctor. They don't want the Doctor (or anyone else for that matter) cleaning messes, that's why they hired the janitors. To do it once in a while is okay, but the right thing to do is really to get the janitor to clean it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-18255031102048506542010-10-21T16:26:25.058-04:002010-10-21T16:26:25.058-04:00You keep assuming that if a doctor doesn't cle...You keep assuming that if a doctor doesn't clean up his own mess, then he/she must think he's more important than everyone else, or too good to clean up after themselves, or whatever.<br /><br />Sure, it's possible they think that, but what makes you so sure that's what they are thinking? Maybe they are thinking about efficiency. Have you ever heard of efficiency? Do you know what it is? If not, what about value for money? Do you see how it relates to this situation? Or are you going to come back again and say "Helmsley thinks he's better than us!! His mom should beat the crap out of him!!". Can you read Helmsley's mind? If not, how do you know he thinks he and/or other doctors are more important?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-18636442856208912662010-10-21T16:19:44.950-04:002010-10-21T16:19:44.950-04:00Oops, I meant vacuous, not vapid, and I guess you&...Oops, I meant vacuous, not vapid, and I guess you're not actually Dr. Grumpy, so you didn't rave on and on about it but you're one of the people supporting his ranting, so it amounts to the same thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-31576295921367071252010-10-21T16:15:17.176-04:002010-10-21T16:15:17.176-04:00Yeesh... I thought I had said enough, but you are ...Yeesh... I thought I had said enough, but you are still completely missing the point.<br /><br />It's not about people thinking they are above the rules, and it's not about them having more money. <br /><br />IMO, one of the biggest problems in our culture is that most people assume everyone else has bad intentions. People like Helmsley don't necessarily think they are better (although it's possible), they might be just expressing a legitimate point of view. <br /><br />In this case, Helmsley had a legitimate point. This has nothing to do with your children and them cleaning up their messes. If I am paying a doctor big bucks for his time, do you think I want him to use that time cleaning up messes? No, that's what the janitor is for. <br /><br />People like you are making the world a worse place to live because you assume that people like Helmsley are rude or impolite when in fact what they are is practical. Not only do you assume he's rude or impolite, but then you rave on and on about it, sometimes so emphatically that you use all caps, and you suggest he should be slapped around by his mother... you sound as though you think what you're saying is gospel, and all these vapid commenters are just eating up the melodrama.<br /><br />But whatever... it doesn't sound like I'll convince you that it's better for the janitors to clean up the messes. So just tell your doctor to stop worrying about your health, and do something about the state of the hallway floors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-73043042663960206452010-10-20T19:10:59.945-04:002010-10-20T19:10:59.945-04:00I expect my children to clean up the messes they m...I expect my children to clean up the messes they make and not leave them for others--and I will expect them to do so as grown-ups...no matter HOW much money they make or how important they THINK they are.<br /><br />The janitor's job is to keep the hospital sanitary--not to pick up after people who think they are too good to clean up after themselves.<br /><br />IMO, one of the biggest problems in our culture is people who think they are above the rules of law and common courtesy because they have more money than the rest of us. You may think that world is a fine place--I don't. I'm glad Dr. Grumpy doesn't either.Wormwood's Doxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10882756844690851674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-71537593761582199372010-10-20T17:20:39.677-04:002010-10-20T17:20:39.677-04:00By the way, I am not Dr. Helmsley, not even a Doct...By the way, I am not Dr. Helmsley, not even a Doctor, I'm just some guy named Paul. I don't think quite the same as most people, and exercises like this help me understand why.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-11603060303383182882010-10-20T16:52:57.189-04:002010-10-20T16:52:57.189-04:00@Wormwood's Doxy:
No no... flushing and not l...@Wormwood's Doxy:<br /><br />No no... flushing and not littering are expected of everyone, and neither take more than a second or so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-15403590495675682422010-10-20T16:48:15.075-04:002010-10-20T16:48:15.075-04:00No no... flushing a toilet and throwing something ...No no... flushing a toilet and throwing something in the trashbin don't take any extra time (not anything over a second, anyway)... and they are expected of anyone. Sounds like you're grasping at straws, to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-63149044937130870492010-10-20T16:46:25.351-04:002010-10-20T16:46:25.351-04:00@Olivia: You missed the point. It doesn't re...@Olivia: You missed the point. It doesn't really matter if it's an emergency or not, the emergency situation is just useful to illustrate the point, because it's easier to see the adverse impact. The impact is much larger in emergency situations, but there is still an impact in non-emergency situations. Sure, in real life people are not rushing everywhere, but Doctors should still let the janitors clean up the messes, because doctors are not paid to clean messes. <br /><br />As for someone else slipping on the mess, it sounds like that is probably not an issue. From how Helmsley was talking it sounds like there are probably drudges close at hand. At most hospitals I've been, there are orderlies all over the place that would be much better qualified than a Doctor to spend their time watching or cleaning messes.<br /><br />Having said all that, I suppose under the circumstances, if I were Dr. Grumpy (on my way to a non-urgent 'consult'), I almost certainly would have done the same as Dr. Grumpy. <br /><br />Still, I think Dr. Grumpy's reaction to Helmsley's suggestion is not warranted (except that Helmsley was a bit of a jerk about it.. e.g. he didn't have to use the word 'drudges').Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-6234139510894737182010-10-20T16:33:20.038-04:002010-10-20T16:33:20.038-04:00Somebody must have told Dr. Helmsley about this po...Somebody must have told Dr. Helmsley about this post and he's here trying to defend himself...<br /><br />(I'm not buying. Should Dr. Grumpy forgo flushing the john because his time is so valuable? Should he have to waste time putting things in the trashbin when he could just throw them on the floor and save his valuable time? According to your logic, Anonymous, the answer is "No"--and I call BS. I bet Mrs. Grumpy would too...)Wormwood's Doxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10882756844690851674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-44294671363429132032010-10-20T16:26:09.489-04:002010-10-20T16:26:09.489-04:00What do I think? I think Dr. Grumpy needs to calm...What do I think? I think Dr. Grumpy needs to calm down. Helmsley had a good point, even if he was a bit of a jerk about it. Dr. Grumpy should save his energy for treating patients, not cleaning up messes. The janitor can't go consult with a patient, because he's not qualified. Doctors have a responsibility to treat patients, that's what they're paid for, that's why they make the big bucks. Using their time and energy to clean up a mess is simply a waste.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-37038925240314629952010-10-20T16:20:52.929-04:002010-10-20T16:20:52.929-04:00Um, sorry everyone but even though his attitude mi...Um, sorry everyone but even though his attitude might be bad, Dr. Helmsley was right. Dr. Grumpy shouldn't be spending his time cleaning up diet coke when he could be saving lives. They have people that will mop that up - people that don't know how to save a kid's life - now get back in the O/R before little Timmy's appendix bursts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-33734185720794714722010-08-21T05:47:31.761-04:002010-08-21T05:47:31.761-04:00I applaud you for that! Just a few days ago I walk...I applaud you for that! Just a few days ago I walked into a bathroom stall with half the floor covered in chocolate milk someone hadn't bothered trying to clean up. It wasn't even three feet to the frickin't paper!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-36406647105149070812010-06-23T22:34:01.892-04:002010-06-23T22:34:01.892-04:00Maybe your blog intro should be changed to read &q...Maybe your blog intro should be changed to read "My patients and practice (and sometimes my colleagues) drive me NUTS!"The Zebranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-28385848006389583542010-06-21T19:18:27.457-04:002010-06-21T19:18:27.457-04:00Think these people magically turn in to a-holes wh...Think these people magically turn in to a-holes when they get their degrees? Come on, folks! <br /><br />The title (degree) gets a lot of flak because people with benign personalities and airs of entitlement are drawn to positions of authority. That does not mean every doctor/professor/etc. is going to be a jerk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-42297445453177647882010-06-08T20:59:04.993-04:002010-06-08T20:59:04.993-04:00a few years back i was in the hospital for 3 month...a few years back i was in the hospital for 3 months and when i wrote the letter to the hospital to thank them for all the care they gave me, i included names of doctors, nurses, janitors, therapists, the kitchen staff, etc. all but one person was so nice to me and took care of me. the one janitor when i was in icu talked to me the whole time (i was on a ventilator) about the weather and such ... she could see i was awake. one of my doctors fed me ice to make sure i wouldn't choke. nurses cleaned me up and took such good care of me. the therapists (all different kinds) helped me recover ... my mom had a saying "the best doctor in the world can't do anything without a plumber or electrician"<br />we all work together in this world<br />go dr grumpy go!vickihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13579938373242229799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-49290471211877464432010-06-08T10:52:13.012-04:002010-06-08T10:52:13.012-04:00Also, to the scoffers: Who said Helmsley wasn'...Also, to the scoffers: Who said Helmsley wasn't a freaking Pathologist?Oliviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09983586189259538140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-67328310093824042672010-06-08T10:50:40.988-04:002010-06-08T10:50:40.988-04:00@Paul: Yes, because every doctor is spending ever...@Paul: Yes, because every doctor is spending every second darting off to the next emergency. Real medicine isn't like "ER" - hell, the ER isn't even usually like "ER". If it were an emergency situation, Grumpy wouldn't have stopped for a Diet Coke, and Helmsley wouldn't have time to make nasty comments. Plus: calling janitorial takes longer than cleaning it yourself, and additional injuries could result in the meantime. <br />Stop looking for excuses for being a douche. <br /><br />There's also a high probability that Helmsley, and others like him are the people who complain about the "high cost of labor" in janitorial, etc., while also complaining they only got a 5% increase, etc.Oliviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09983586189259538140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-37337168606877709882010-06-07T21:04:24.178-04:002010-06-07T21:04:24.178-04:00"Oh but my mommy told me to always clean up a..."Oh but my mommy told me to always clean up after myself"<br /><br />Shut up crybaby, and get back in the O/R and save those kids!! Get off your knees, stop playing with that Diet Coke!! Little Timmy is dying in there!!!Paulhttp://Paulabrams.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-31616145627776005252010-06-07T21:00:17.883-04:002010-06-07T21:00:17.883-04:00Helmsley is absolutely right. Every wasted moppi...Helmsley is absolutely right. Every wasted mopping the floor is one less minute spent saving lives.Paulhttp://paulabrams.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5883634615775822475.post-26377739562471766292010-06-07T20:57:44.532-04:002010-06-07T20:57:44.532-04:00Helmsley is right!!!
You are all idiots!!!Helmsley is right!!! <br /><br />You are all idiots!!!Paul Abramsnoreply@blogger.com